Subject:     I: Tate event
Sent:        2-02-1920 20:53
Received:    2-02-2001 18:25
From:        Cesare Pietroiusti, cesarepietroiusti@worldnet.att.net
To:          Caroline Bachmann, jonas@libero.it
             Norese Giancarlo, signore@undo.net
             Emilio Fantin, bom1790@iperbole.bologna.it

e questo l'ho ricevuto oggi da londra.
scusa caroline, la tua email mi era arrivata, ma avevo rimandato la lettura.
adesso vado un po' di corsa e sar� brevino.
- vedo meglio un giorno solo (poi possiamo anche stare l� un po',
organizzare qualcosa da un'altra parte etc.) tutto alla tate - mi pare di
capire che si pu� fare, dalla mattina fino alla sera alle 10, con persone,
cibo, carte e tecnologie.
- ottima l'idea del potluck - diner canadienne. secondo me qualcuno potrebbe
contribuire anche mandando cose da lontano, senza essere personalmente
presente (magari ci si collega, visto che qui si parla di webcast the
event).
- mi sembra importantisimo invitare anche altri, specie stranieri (chi? fare
proposte please, possibilmente presto, cos� aggiungiamo un paio di nomi per
il primo comunicato stampa di 60 parole che ci � richiesto entro il 15
febbraio).
- mi sembra anche importante che noi quattro buttiamo gi� ciascuno
un'idea-progetto che a) faccia parte dell'evento nel suo complesso e b)
rappresenti un contributo individuale.
- buona l'idea delle "intenzioni" (sogni, aspirazioni, programmi futuri).
- chiedo a martin se e in che modo lui vuole partecipare (e anche
suggerimenti per il coinvolgimento della situazione londinese-britannica).
augh
cesare

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Dominic Willsdon <dominic.willsdon@tate.org.uk>
A: 'Cesare Pietroiusti' <cesarepietroiusti@worldnet.att.net>
Cc: Martin Clark <advice76@hotmail.com>
Data: gioved� 1 febbraio 2001 15.54
Oggetto: RE: Tate event


Dear Cesare,
I have only a little time just now, but I wanted to reply straight away so
that you can carry on developing your thinking about what we might do. There
are two options in terms of the space: 1. the east room (which Martin
mentioned), which has terrific views of the city on three sides, and is
simply a beautiful space; and 2. the McAulay studio which is more part of
the life of the gallery, it is adjacent to the Turbine Hall where the crowds
circulate. In either case, it is possible to have projection, computers,
monitors etc. It would be possible to webcast this event. I encourage you to
think about using the technology that we have, and making a kind of
multmedia event. On a Saturday, the gallery is open till 22.00, and we could
be there the whole day. Yes, I still need the 60 word description plus some
of the participants (but only if they are confirmed). Members of other
European collectives sounds like a good idea. The event could say: 'Oreste
with X and Y'. I don't know who it would be interesting to invite, you tell
me. If you have other questions, please ask.
best wishes,
Dominic

-----Original Message-----
From: Cesare Pietroiusti [mailto:cesarepietroiusti@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: 01 February 2001 19:52
To: Dominic Willsdon
Cc: Martin Clark
Subject: R: Tate event


dear Dominic and Martin,
I agree very much on your consideration about the structured vs informal
aspects of the event we are putting together. It is, infact, a very specific
characteristic of Oreste, since its beginning: vacation or work?
communication or human relations? friends or colleagues? public or private?
and so on. I must say, however, that there is another central point, that is
the individual  - group opposition/relation, that I feel critical.
Anyway, I have exchanged some idea with other oreste artists (namely Emilio
Fantin, Giancarlo Norese, and Caroline Bachmann), and we think the format
could be a one-day open event, where conditions for getting together,
relaxing, exchanging ideas and networking are infact given, and where a
certain number of artists' projects, or proposals (that could be related
with food, or publications, or the exchange itself, or inviting others, or
other...) can fit, and maybe create some sort of "timing" (consequently, a
schedule).
Until what time you think the event could go on in the evening? Which are
the characteristics of the space where it could happen? Are technical
equipments (such as slideprojector, monitors, computer with connection, but
also chairs, tables etc.) available?
You mentioned in a previous email you need a 60 words description of the
event before Feb 16. Do you confirm this? Do you think all the names of the
participants (individual and groups) have to be in it?
Mentioning "key figures" from other part of Europe whom were you thinking
to? I would like very much to involve others (specially representatives of
artists collectives) to attend and/or send material for the event.
Sorry for all these questions...
Hope to hear from you soon,
Cesare

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Dominic Willsdon <dominic.willsdon@tate.org.uk>
A: 'cesarepietroiusti@hotmail.com' <cesarepietroiusti@hotmail.com>;
'cesarepietroiusti@worldnet.att.net' <cesarepietroiusti@worldnet.att.net>
Cc: Martin Clark (E-mail) <advice76@hotmail.com>
Data: marted� 30 gennaio 2001 10.37
Oggetto: Tate event


Dear Cesare,
I had a conversation with Martin yesterday, we talked about the draft
proposal you sent to him and agreed that it is the basis of what could be a
very interesting event. We thought maybe it would be good to have a central
concept, something to which everyone could orient themselves; and also that
we need a basic (even if minimal) programme for the day (let's say it is one
day for the time being). Of course, we don't want to over-programme things,
I am not looking for a conventional conference, in fact precisely not that.
But it is a question of the balance between informality (and formlessness)
and a formal structure. Thinking in this way, it started to seem to us that
this question might itself be the key concept. It seemed to us that part of
what characterises a network 'institution' like Oreste is the way 'forms'
(specific events) emerge, temporarily, from formlessness (the absence of
conventional, fixed institutions), and then dissolve again. Martin and I
thought that this question - form and formlessness, applied to events and
communication rather than (as traditionally) the art object - might be the
focus of the day in June. And it could be that this question also relates us
back to the situation in which the Arte Povera artists found themselves.
What do you think? If something like this appeals, maybe, between us all, we
could draft some kind of proposal/description of what we want to do. We
could send this to a couple of key people in Europe who could make specific
contributions, supplementing the 'Oreste people'. I think that the minimal
structure we need includes identifying (even if not necessarily making
explicit) certain core participants, and then opening it up to whoever
attends. My feeling is that event will be open for people to drop in when
they want during the day, but I am not against having a 'closed' session (as
you suggested) as well. You were asking about resources. How much I can
spend depends on what form the event takes, but �4000 (around US$6000) could
be made available (which might or might not include food etc.).
Do let me know what you think about all this.
best wishes,
Dominic

Dominic Willsdon
Curator: Events and Courses
Tate Modern
Bankside
London SE1 9TG
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